NV B. 84 – Plus System for two-rail kick groin shots, VEPs from IV

November 8, 2011
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dr-dave-billiards. com Dr. Dave and Tom Ross describe, Illustrate, and Demonstrate how to use the Plus System (AKA Two Plus System) for two-rail kick groin shots Into the first short track. This is An example shot from Disc IV of “The Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots” (VEPs). The series includes over 750 VEPs shots in 50 different categories, with over 250 “gems” of the game. The series Is The MOST comprehensive collection of pool shots ever published. Disc IV covers bank and kick shots, Along With Other categories of advanced SEVERAL shots. http

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18 Responses to “ NV B. 84 – Plus System for two-rail kick groin shots, VEPs from IV ”

  1. DrDaveBilliards on November 8, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    @digimortal401

    Thanks for the comment. You’re welcome!

    Please help spread the word about my vids, website, and instructional products.

  2. digimortal401 on November 8, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Dude you rock!!! These have really helped out 10 fold.

  3. FromThe412 on November 8, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Previous to watching this video I couldn’t fathom the diamond system. But after watching your videos it is both very clear and informational, I seem to learn more, and more with each of your videos. I’m most definitely subscribing for all my future pool needs. Thanks.

  4. ProdigyKimXP on November 8, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Does this work if u hit long rail first?

  5. DrDaveBilliards on November 8, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    @Apoproegmena
    You’re welcome!

    I aim to squerve,
    Dr. Dave

  6. Apoproegmena on November 8, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @DrDaveBilliards
    okay, thank you!

  7. DrDaveBilliards on November 8, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    @Apoproegmena

    The diamond systems work on tables of any size; although, results do vary some with ball/cloth/cushion conditions. The benchmark reference shot helps you determine how to adjust (with speed and/or English) on a particular table.

    Dr. Dave

  8. Apoproegmena on November 9, 2011 at 12:00 am

    which size does the table have to be? or has it got the same effect on every table?

  9. DrDaveBilliards on November 9, 2011 at 12:47 am

    That’s a great example. Thank you for posting it.

    As I show in the video, the speed and amount of English are important. Appleton has obvious practiced these types of shots.

  10. lither on November 9, 2011 at 1:19 am

    @DrDaveBilliards Cool!

    BTW, I was watching this Mosconi Cup match and you could use this system with a bank at “Mosconi Cup 2009, Day 1 – Match 2 – Part 5 of 7″ @ 6:17
    If I’m getting this correct, Appleton is aiming through approx. 1.75 diamonds on the long rail, which makes him shooting towards that 1.75 spot on the short rail as well (because he wants to aim almost for the center of the corner pocket where the four sits) with top-left spin — just as in your video.

  11. DrDaveBilliards on November 9, 2011 at 2:14 am

    VEPS-IV explains and demonstrates many different aiming systems for various types of kicks and banks. If you want to use more than your “guts,” you might want to check it out.

    Dr. Dave

  12. lither on November 9, 2011 at 3:03 am

    I’m trying this at the pool hall tomorrow. I’m usually got with banking, but at the moment I’m just playing with my guts. Combining it with a system should take my game to a whole new level. Thanks a bunch!

  13. DrDaveBilliards on November 9, 2011 at 3:28 am

    Every table will “play” differently. The key is to find the necessary first-rail aim point for the reference shot, and to determine which diamond off the third rail goes to the pocket. Everything else is defined relative to that.

    The formula for predicting the third rail diamond should work pretty well on most tables. Have you tested this out? Check out the video again and figure out the reference diamonds for your table. Also, try the formula.

    I hope that helps,
    Dr. Dave

  14. snowyvt on November 9, 2011 at 4:13 am

    I tried this on my home table and it was consistently off by 1 diamond. Being Plus 2 instead of Plus 3. I think it was because I have a “bar table” that is 40″ by 80″ instead of the “standard table” that is 50″ by 100″. Is that true ?? If so it would be nice if in the future you could make some comment about lessons that work differently on different size tables. Be even nicer if you could give 2 versions of a lesson like this, one for the standard table and one for the bar table.

  15. DrDaveBilliards on November 9, 2011 at 4:23 am

    Thanks. It does take practice, and the speed and amount of English are important, but it is a very useful system.

    Good luck with your game,
    Dr. Dave

  16. blindahl78 on November 9, 2011 at 5:15 am

    That’s an awesome system! Have been struggling to get the feel for two rail kicks but never really got hold of it. Got to take this to the table and practice it. Thanks again for all your great videos!

  17. DrDaveBilliards on November 9, 2011 at 5:51 am

    Thanks a bunch. I hope everybody agrees with you.

    Please help spread the word about VEPS.

    Cheers,
    Dr. Dave

  18. kolaas2006 on November 9, 2011 at 6:09 am

    can wait to buy it, youve truly made billiards history!!

    No one will ever be able to make a more comprehensive research on pool.

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